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Post by Curtis "Smash" Klashinsky on Jul 23, 2006 15:50:28 GMT -5
I didn't want to Hi-Jack the making weight thread so I figured I would start a new one. Looking to see what you guys think about this. I currently weigh in at 245 Lbs. I'm on no real diet per say. I've got some muscle on me from bodybuilding for quite a few years. I do eat good healthy meals but I do eat junk food and stuff like that as well. One thing I notice at tournaments is how the lighter guys get to pull in 2 and sometimes 3 weighclasses but since I'm in the heaviest weight class I can only compete in the one class and therefor get ALOT less table time. I do have a little bit of a belly but I don't pass as being Fat either. Here's where the question comes in......(I know....Finally hey ) Do you guys think that I could maintain most of my strength and be under 220 lbs? What about making the 198's? I am willing to put in the cardio time and my goal would be to be down to the weight by the start of 2007 circuit tournament time. So I do have the time to do it. I won't have to rush. Time isn't the issue. If I went throught the whole process to make the 198's do you think I would loose too much muscle in the process. or have the muscle and not have the energy. Just looking for opinions here. You don't have to be a Nutrionalist to answer these questions. Thank you for you time.
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Post by Brian Kehler on Jul 23, 2006 16:32:12 GMT -5
iif you lean riight out you'd have no trouble pullinig at a lighter weight... will you be as strong as you are now? not at first...
but once you adapt to your new weight and learn how to pull, you'd probably do pretty alright.
At the Moosepull last year I was 206lbs... shortly after that I went up to 216lbs
I won provincials this year at 176lbs
at 206 and 176 people couldn't even really tell the difference, other than my face looked leaner... I'm back around 185 now and potentially the strongest I've ever been.
so it's worth a shot, try it.
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Post by Curtis "Smash" Klashinsky on Jul 23, 2006 16:37:56 GMT -5
Thanks for your time Kehler. Much appreciated.
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Post by John Milne on Jul 23, 2006 17:33:55 GMT -5
I'd give the 220's a shot first for sure. I'd be willing to guess that if you didnt rush it that you would not notice much difference in strength at all.
I just got back into this sport again and have lost about 15 lbs and I actually feel stronger and fitter. I did lose it fairly slowly by just eating better, training harder and more intense and by doing more cardio.
If you are 245 with a "bit of a belly" this feat should not be hard to accomplish at all. Id be willing to wager you wouldnt lose any muscle at all so your str. shouldn't be affected IMO.
It's worth a shot Curtis. Besides, I think you will feel better and fitter at a lighter weight.
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Post by Curtis "Smash" Klashinsky on Jul 23, 2006 17:50:36 GMT -5
johnmilne, Thanks alot for your post. I'm going to give it a shot. Like you said. Even If i just make the 220's. At least that would give me a better chance in that class and I could still jump up a class and play with the big boys.
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Post by John Milne on Jul 23, 2006 18:19:37 GMT -5
I was carrying around a "bit of a gut" as well. I completely cut out soft drinks and started to eat in moderation. No longer was I eating because the food tasted good or I "thought" I was hungry. -- Quite often that can be solved with a large glass of water and 30 minutes for the craving to dissapear.
- I started on the treadmill 3-4 times a week (depending on how my body felt) for between 25-30 minutes.
- Simply drinking more water (almost forcing yourself) is very beneficial also. It seems like too much water at first but you soon get used to it.
- Coffee is useful too as long as you use milk instead of cream and limit the sugar. I like using Nestle Fat Free Coffee Mate myself. Coffee gives you an energy boost and it seems to cut food cravings down.
- Of course no eating within 4 hours of bed sounds simple but you just gotta train yourself to (again) fight those cravings.
- On my last meal of the day I try to eliminate my carbs (or as much as I can). **Im not advocating eliminating carbs altogether but I like to eat them Early in the day rather than later.
- Take a 1-A-Day vitamin if you aren't already.... just to make sure that if you are cutting back that you are still supplying your body with the vitamins it needs.
And again.. its mostly about portion sizes. Dont go nuts at the dinner table bud.. you wont have to go nuts on the treadmill.
It ends up being a mindset really. You have to decide to do it and stick to your guns. Know that you have to look at your self in the mirror every night before bed and be accountable for your actions of the day.
Let me know how you make out Curtis.
John
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Post by Curtis "Smash" Klashinsky on Jul 23, 2006 18:30:18 GMT -5
Wow John, I don't know what to say. Thanks alot.
I know alot about putting on weight for bodybuilding as I was the skinny kid who go picked on all the time at school and now I am 245... LOL
But I will admit, When it comes to loosing the fat. I'm pretty new.
Thank you.
I will keep you posted for sure.
Diet starts tommorow.
I will post updates in here every now and then.
I don't have a tredmill but I do have an exercise bike and I do my armwrestling workouts.
thank you again John.
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Post by Terry Palaschak on Jul 24, 2006 14:56:41 GMT -5
What you will find as strength differences as far as the guys you will be pulling against won't be very much. Your build is very similiar to mine Curt and I can gaurantee you dropping from 245 to 220 all you will lose is the back and belly fat. Maybe a little off the legs from the extra leg motions from the jogging or what ever cardio you take up. As I was saying earlier the srength of the guys whose every day weight is say 210 to 245 unless they are very lean in build won't vary that much. What you will find is that as your weight drops your snaps on the go should be slightly faster and as long as you pace yourself with your weight loss you shouldn't notice any major differences in strength.
As John was saying drink lots of water, this will help flush fat from your body. I also eat all day. Its called grazing. Eat small portions over the course of the day keeping your self just a little on the hungry side and this will keep your body in a constant state of digestion therefore keeping your metabolism at an elevated rate. Kehler should be able to fill in the details on this because I'm pretty sure him and Ryan have set out a specific diet that they follow daily.
The main thing is experiment and see what your body needs. Everybody is slightly different and remember it may take two to three weeks before you see any results.
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Post by Curtis "Smash" Klashinsky on Jul 24, 2006 16:32:50 GMT -5
Thanks for the info and feedback Terry. Like I mentioned earlier, I will post my progress on this thread. Not saying that everybody needs to reply to those posts but it will at least keep those who are interested...In the loop.
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Post by outlawstu on Jul 24, 2006 22:28:03 GMT -5
when i first started arm wrestling i pulled with luke riemer and he was 242 that was 2001 he then dropped to just under 200 in a couple years he did say he had to adjust to the lose of strength at first but as you know now he's as strong as ever contact him and he'll give you some tips as to how he cut some weight althougth i think he had to eat 24/7 to get to 242 but couldn't hurt to talk to him
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