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Post by rheidebrecht on Jul 27, 2006 23:44:12 GMT -5
Hey Curtis, if you're at 245 without an excessive amount of fat on you you're probably proportioned to be a super heavyweight. There's a number of guys here in Ontario that are top-notch armwrestlers that compete in the open weight class weighing around 230-240 and do very well.
I don't disagree with Kehler that you can eventually be as strong at 220 as you are now at 245, however at that time you'd be that much stronger if you stayed at 245. Also, if you're concerned about maintaining strength while cutting weight, I'd be very careful when it comes to cutting back on food. I wouldn't do much more than cut out any junk food that you can live without, and make sure you don't reduce the amount of protein that you're getting. Other than that, add some cardio as needed and lose the weight very slowly.
I once dropped from 265 to 242 for Nationals and I really felt weak. I had some fat to lose, and ended up quite lean, but wasn't close to be as strong as before I lost the weight. I wouldn't recomend going for 198, as 47 pounds is a BIG drop, and you will really feel that. So you have to consider whether there are enought tournaments that offer a 220 class for it to be worth your while (I know that it was only a couple years ago that Ontario added the 220 class to sanctioned tournaments; before that it was just 198).
If you train hard, you'll get stronger and be competitive in whatever weight class you're pulling, so why not go with the weight that's natural for you?
Rick H.
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Post by Curtis "Smash" Klashinsky on Jul 28, 2006 0:08:25 GMT -5
You guys have brought up some very good points. Thank you for taking the time to Post in here for me.
So I went and checked out the sasaktchewan Weight classes at seasonal tournaments and found this:
MEN'S LEFT ARM
60KG ( 0 - 132 LBS) 70KG (132 - 154 LBS) 75KG (154 - 165 LBS) 80KG (165 - 176 LBS) 85KG (176 - 198 LBS) 90KG (198 - + LBS)
MEN'S RIGHT ARM
60KG ( 0 - 132 LBS) 70KG (132 - 154 LBS) 75KG (154 - 165 LBS) 80KG (165 - 176 LBS) 85KG (176 - 198 LBS) 90KG (198 - + LBS)
Meaning I would have to get down below 198 Wich like you said is a BIG drop.
Then I checked provincials and found that the weight classes are different with the class below added.
198–231lbs
If I competed all year as a super heavyweight then would I cut weight just for provincials or would I stay as a super heavyweight?
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Post by Brian Kehler on Jul 28, 2006 8:43:04 GMT -5
The thing is Curtis, you said you're just getting back into armwrestling now... are you at your full potential for strength right now? probably not... developing strength for pulling takes time.
No matter what class you decide to pull you can still keep getting stronger, regardless.... if you drop to 198 will you have the strength of a super? unlikely.... but can you get stronger than you are now even at that lower weiight? definitely.
what I'm saying is, you can stronger regardless.... trying to get your strength up to match the top guys in the supers right now, is a bigger jump than if you tried to accomplish that in the 198's... It's all relative to who you're pulling.
Find a weiight that's comfortable, that you can maintain wiithout starving yourself... and then even work back up to the supers, developing strength along the way...
I'm naturally about 185lbs... i train and i eat healthy and can stay at that easily... if i push it i can make 176.... but eventually I want to go back up to 198's..... but a solid 198.... and I'm not gonna do that until I'm ready
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Post by Curtis "Smash" Klashinsky on Jul 28, 2006 10:26:11 GMT -5
Thanks Kehler.
What I am doing now is I cut all Junk food from my meals and am now eating very clean. I am training 3 times a weeks with all armwrestling related exercises and will be working my way up to 4 times pr weeks cardio (exercise bike). I am supplementing with Dyna-Burn by DYMATIZE wich is a fat burner I have used in the past and had some good success with.
I'm not trying to drop all the weight all of a sudden. I will do it gradually and still get in all my essential proteins and carbs.
How does that all sound?
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Post by Brian Kehler on Jul 28, 2006 17:43:48 GMT -5
sounds reasonable. the things you're gonna want to avoid most are excess sodium and sugar and don't eat carbs and fat in the same meal if you can help it. just protein+carbs and protein+fat... reason being, trigering a glycemic response in the same meal will just increase fat storage. Most people avoid fruit too, but... Fructose despite being a simple sugar actually doesnt trigger much of a glycemic response... it reacts very similar to low glycemic carbs what will also make a big difference isi tming your carbs in the early part of the day, the majority being for breakfast, and then pre/post workout (post iis the only time you should eat simple carbs) then space out the rest of the day wiithout them. you may know all of that, but just incase
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Post by Curtis "Smash" Klashinsky on Jul 28, 2006 18:10:24 GMT -5
I did know most of that from bodybuilding experience but not all of that.
Do you have any ideas for meals that would be good for the types of food I should be eating right now?
Ideas for meals 1 thru 6 would be great.
If you don't have the time to type that all out I will understand. You've already helped out alot.
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Post by Rob Hancock on Jul 31, 2006 0:09:34 GMT -5
Remember armwrestling is divided into weight classes. You have to take into consideration your age, height, muscle mass and even your hand size. If you eat less to lose weight you will also lose strength. eg. If two identical twin brothers both weigh the same but one eats twice as much, which one will be stronger? You will need to hold your competition weight for six months to be at full power. Losing weight quickly before tournaments will weaken you. Inside tip* It's much better to be a little under your weight limit the week before the big day and eat well right up to the tournament, try it, you will see! 220 sounds very realistic, 198 would take some time. Good luck and remember losing weight gets harder with age.
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Post by John Milne on Aug 22, 2006 18:09:22 GMT -5
So how is the weight loss coming Curtis? What weight are you at now?
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Post by Curtis "Smash" Klashinsky on Aug 22, 2006 19:43:12 GMT -5
That is too funny that you asked this today John. I was just comming on here to post an update. The afternoon before I started my diet I weighed in at 246.5 LBS. I have been eating eggs for breakfast (Only 4-5) and then 4 meals all consisting of 1 chicken breast and 1 cup of cooked rice. Leaving me pretty much hungry all day between and even after meels for the most part. I try to keep my vegetable and fruit intake up and when i cannot get them in I drink V8 juice. I do occasionaly switch rice for a potato to get a bit of a different taste in there. I have not cheated on my diet once yet and am proud of that. When I want a snack I have a piece of fruit or rice cakes I have been only supplementing with multivitamins and Dymatize - Dyma-Burn - fat burners. 4 a day. 2 before my first meal right away upon awaking in the morning where I do 1 hr on the exercise bike. The other 2 in the evening where I do a workout (all armwrestling exercises) OR another hour on the exercise bike. I have also been taking Glucosamine sulfate for my joints wich are doing just fine. I do 3 days a week of mild to very heavy Armwrestling workouts (alone with my pulley and weights ) + 5 cardio days a week as well. I weighed myself at noon today and I currently weigh .. . . . .. 233 Lbs. People have been saying how my face looks thinner a bit and I have been noticing some very nice muscle deffinition in my chest and arms now. I have been feeling hungry but very good overall. I have been limmiting my very heavy training to avoid injury as I know that is more probable to happen when on low carbs.
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Post by John Milne on Aug 24, 2006 21:27:43 GMT -5
That is awesome Curtis. That is fantastic progress. I'm glad to hear everything is going so well. Be careful not to overtrain though. Five cardio days along with all the other stuff seems like alot to me... (although everyone is different.) Keep up the good work Curtis. From experience I know that weight loss is not easy initailly but as you (and others) notice the results it seems to come along easier.
Side note... Over time I have come to realize when dealing with long term weight loss that Moderation is the key. It is OK to deviate from your strict eating habits ONCE IN A WHILE. Dont cut your cravings off completely.. just be smart about them.
Keep up the great work Curtis.
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