no "Ready"

[evanbourgoin]

i like dont move.... GO! i hate it when people are timeing the readies and start before "go" against me. being pinned and then hearing the word go is irritating and some refs at the end of the long day start letting things flow more. with dont move....go! u cant go early but still keeps hitting and reflex speeds happening

[Anthony Dall'Antonia]

I was discussing this with Gord in PEI.. IMO it would take away from early starts BUT.. there would be people unhappy that they weren't ready.
Also it would get people used to starting like that and might not help at other events that don't use this start as Leonard stated earlier.
I guess using the start that is most common at events would be best to prepare everyone.

[mwiggins]

I would think that as long as the refs can see that the arm wrestlers were settled? and ready then they would say go. I could see issues if the refs said go 2 seconds after the elbows were put on the pads. I like the don't move....go that we are just starting to use more of now.

[PinArm]

I'm in favour. In Alberta, we have recently used DON'T MOVE ...... GO, which is fantastic. However, the advantage of just GO is that we don't need to rely on the refs to put in the pause so much (although there should be a pause before the GO in any event). Like Joey, I'd prefer DON'T MOVE ... distinct pause ... GO. That way, after the DON'T MOVE you know that the next word will be GO -- however, I lack faith that this will be universally implemented across the country -- so, I'm in favour of the just GO (for the reasons cited by Milne and Gobby).

Basically, now, competitors are hitting on the READY, so I am not too concerned about Eric's point as at least having only a GO removes the "cheat factor", i.e. trying to time the GO with the ready, and having that be arguably them main success factor in a match.

[oldguy]

This is a good topic and hopefully some good comes out of it... ask any armwrestler when should you hit ... And they will tell you to hit on the end of ready before waiting for the actual "Go". Your fast starters love this because it is left up to the referee to try and catch the early starters ... And half the time they get away with it. This is not fair and discouraging to the puller who just wants a fair match ... And to see who really is stronger. Myself... I used to love when you could load up a little while the referee kept you center on the table and started you with a "Go". You did not have even half of the early starts, elbow pops or slips outs that plague our sport like you do now. It was more brawn against brawn ... And the stronger guy won. Have you ever watched some of these early starters at the table afterwards pulling guys ... They do not do so well because now they are really testing their strength ... and it does not compare because half the guys they armwrestle in the tournament never got a chance even apply some of their power due to missing on a early start.
Guys who have an issue with trying to make things more fair are generally the ones who have accumulated a lot of wins this way ... And "Yes" it is so entertaining to watch a match where a guy loses a match to an early start. If you think your tough ... Set up fair, take a grip ... And actually pull your competitor and you might even think that this is what Armwrestling is supposed to be. It is a test of strength not speed ... If any of you ever pulled John Brzenk ... You knew you lost because he beat you fairly ... Not by cheating you in speed ... He controls the match so you feel his strength ... And when he has lost ... It is because the other guy was better on that given day. People want to see matches ... Not controversial calls made by referees.

[Will Sarty]

I like "don't move, go!"

[Rick Pinkney]

May 30, 2014 1:41:52 GMT -5 oldguy said:

This is a good topic and hopefully some good comes out of it... ask any armwrestler when should you hit ... And they will tell you to hit on the end of ready before waiting for the actual "Go". Your fast starters love this because it is left up to the referee to try and catch the early starters ... And half the time they get away with it. This is not fair and discouraging to the puller who just wants a fair match ... And to see who really is stronger. Myself... I used to love when you could load up a little while the referee kept you center on the table and started you with a "Go". You did not have even half of the early starts, elbow pops or slips outs that plague our sport like you do now. It was more brawn against brawn ... And the stronger guy won. Have you ever watched some of these early starters at the table afterwards pulling guys ... They do not do so well because now they are really testing their strength ... and it does not compare because half the guys they armwrestle in the tournament never got a chance even apply some of their power due to missing on a early start.
Guys who have an issue with trying to make things more fair are generally the ones who have accumulated a lot of wins this way ... And "Yes" it is so entertaining to watch a match where a guy loses a match to an early start. If you think your tough ... Set up fair, take a grip ... And actually pull your competitor and you might even think that this is what Armwrestling is supposed to be. It is a test of strength not speed ... If any of you ever pulled John Brzenk ... You knew you lost because he beat you fairly ... Not by cheating you in speed ... He controls the match so you feel his strength ... And when he has lost ... It is because the other guy was better on that given day. People want to see matches ... Not controversial calls made by referees.

Armwrestling is more than just strength. It is a combination of strength, speed and technical ability.Every armwrestler out there tries to take every advantage they can get.

I don't like the change for the same reason Eric stated. As a referee that's exactly how the starts will be.

[Jeff Miller]

Hey Rick, I've reviewed many of the proposed changes coming down the pipe with Gord, and I must say you are doing a great job - thanks for your all your hard work and inclusiveness!

[Rick Pinkney]

We've been doing everything almost the exact same way as we did when I started 34 years ago.
We need to experiment with different aspects of the sport to make it a better experience for both the competitor and the spectator.

[Mr. Espey]

I think an acceptable compromise is "Don't Move... Go". At least you know the "go" is coming and still have time to let the ref know if something is not right.