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Post by Mr. Espey on Jan 29, 2007 21:45:25 GMT -5
If you need advice on the hook... Christian is the man to get it from.
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Post by austinslater on Jan 29, 2007 23:28:14 GMT -5
Christian,
What type of Bicep Flexor work is your favorite for the hook?
As for me I love partial preacher curls similar to what Ryan has talked about on here many times. Use a dumbell and an ez bar and alternate each week. Do this one time a wk along with your weekly practice and your hook will improve. Good luck!
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Post by John Milne on Jan 29, 2007 23:40:50 GMT -5
Your training partners should be able to tell you "yes, this is good" or "dont go that way, go this way"
Your training partners should be your best yardstick to measure your technique with. If it makes them feel weak.. you are doing something right. Sometimes your goal isn't to just go where you are the strongest.. it's to make your opponent feel weakest.
Stay tight.. hip to the table, elbow tight to your body and lock everything in. Usually your arm doesn't move much in a hook, its your body "leaning over" and your arm staying locked in position. Try to attain high hand position as well (at least higher than opponents).
It will probably be mostly trial and error, make sure you get constant feedback from partners. Go at 30-50% so you can talk through it. Do it slowly, groove the movement. Then have them hook you, know where you feel weak so that you understand the movement. Go in a losing position and understand why you feel weak so you understand why you have to curl, push, drive in, drag, rise etc.. etc..
Take it slow and easy. The strength will come. Dont go balls out so that you are too sore for next practice. Take the time to do it right and take it easy enough to let those muscles, tendons get used to the stresses of hooking.
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Post by Curtis "Smash" Klashinsky on Jan 30, 2007 0:08:22 GMT -5
Your training partners should be able to tell you "yes, this is good" or "dont go that way, go this way" Your training partners should be your best yardstick to measure your technique with. If it makes them feel weak.. you are doing something right. Sometimes your goal isn't to just go where you are the strongest.. it's to make your opponent feel weakest. Stay tight.. hip to the table, elbow tight to your body and lock everything in. Usually your arm doesn't move much in a hook, its your body "leaning over" and your arm staying locked in position. Try to attain high hand position as well (at least higher than opponents). It will probably be mostly trial and error, make sure you get constant feedback from partners. Go at 30-50% so you can talk through it. Do it slowly, groove the movement. Then have them hook you, know where you feel weak so that you understand the movement. Go in a losing position and understand why you feel weak so you understand why you have to curl, push, drive in, drag, rise etc.. etc.. Take it slow and easy. The strength will come. Dont go balls out so that you are too sore for next practice. Take the time to do it right and take it easy enough to let those muscles, tendons get used to the stresses of hooking. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Even more great advice. I love this place. Thanks for taking the time to write that John.
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Post by christianbinnie on Jan 30, 2007 11:33:22 GMT -5
Ryan: Thank You! Austin: I started as a topper. a VERY unorthodox topper, Until I broke the arm TOPPING in 97. And from that point on I had EXTREME pain in the arm where I couldn't do any type of pressing exercises to full range of motion. I could only go half way down for roughly 4 years, until left elbow surgery in 05....I believe the reason I "could hook well" was due to the many years of training and the strength I was able to build over those years in my elbow flexors, ESPECIALLY my biceps. AND I NEVER TRAINED FOREARMS EITHER!... Now I do many diffferent and sometimes "weird" exercises for the elbow flexors. I however, NEVER do preacher curls, and rarely EVER did them. IF I did a sort of preacher I did it with the pad turned around so there was no angle, and I did full range of motion. REMEMBER this was BEFORE armwrestling. I train my left arm every day ,and twice on Mondays and Thursdays. On those days I train it twice I do will do armwrestling exercises then just for overall stength. The armwrestling exercises vary each day. Also, I am told my hook is a bit unorthodox too.
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Post by Ben Pilon on Jan 30, 2007 13:34:02 GMT -5
Chin up are also very good to build upper body strength. Mainly arms and shoulders which is important for the hook technique. The hook is not my fav. I feel I have alot of work to do. Toprolls usually will demand alot to comeback. Not everyone can be good at presses. If you're in a hook and feel that you can hold your opponent for awhile, you can try to do some finger walk and pry open his wrist. I have seen Steve Morneau do that once and it seemed to work well. You can also do the opposite if you're in a losing position with a bent wrist by pulling back your elbow and very quickly push it back enabling you too hook and drag. I could be wrong though, I am not a real good armwrestler but I intend to get alot better.
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Post by Curtis "Smash" Klashinsky on Jan 30, 2007 18:06:50 GMT -5
Chin up are also very good to build upper body strength. Mainly arms and shoulders which is important for the hook technique. The hook is not my fav. I feel I have alot of work to do. Toprolls usually will demand alot to comeback. Not everyone can be good at presses. If you're in a hook and feel that you can hold your opponent for awhile, you can try to do some finger walk and pry open his wrist. I have seen Steve Morneau do that once and it seemed to work well. You can also do the opposite if you're in a losing position with a bent wrist by pulling back your elbow and very quickly push it back enabling you too hook and drag. I could be wrong though, I am not a real good armwrestler but I intend to get alot better. I have started to do Chin-ups. Can't do alot of them....Maybe that's a hint. Thanks for the advice.
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Post by Mr. Espey on Jan 30, 2007 18:33:30 GMT -5
Don't feel too bad Curtis... I can't do many either.
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Post by Terry Palaschak on Jan 30, 2007 18:49:54 GMT -5
11 on a good day for me is my max. 9 with overhand grip.
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Post by Curtis "Smash" Klashinsky on Jan 30, 2007 19:01:02 GMT -5
Don't feel too bad Curtis... I can't do many either. LOL, Yeah, But LOOK AT YOU
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