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Post by dsteff on Oct 19, 2013 10:43:13 GMT -5
I'm running an overall with a prize for the last puller standing. Just getting ideas to make it fair for all pullers to compete . The only way I know is that the heaviest moves down the weight classes , and if he continues to win he can be pulling against the winner of the light class. ( running 4 classes 4 winners)
Does anyone have some fun idea's that would even the field. (this overall will be free for the winners )
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Post by Curtis "Smash" Klashinsky on Oct 22, 2013 0:03:58 GMT -5
Hey Darrell, I've only ever seen it as the heaviest guy keeps pulling his way down on video. Never actually been to a tournament with an Overall chance at the end.
Best of luck my friend.
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Post by nategagnon on Oct 23, 2013 10:10:15 GMT -5
I have always run my overalls that way, the heaviest guy starts against the next heaviest class and goes down the classes
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Post by dsteff on Oct 23, 2013 21:07:40 GMT -5
Thanks guys , i think will go with the heavy going down the weight class . I have seen Jimmy Findley almost beat the the heavy winner down in Minot ND , so there is a chance as fatigue is setting in . I was contemplating 1st and 2nd of each class matching against each other then the winners go against each other from top to bottom .
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Post by John Milne on Oct 24, 2013 14:53:02 GMT -5
Should the overall champ be the best armwrestler and not just a little guy who is rested and gets to fight a bigger worn out guy?
It should be called something different if you're just going to try to burn out a bigger man so the little guy can win. I like the overall champ to be the best guy there that day and not someone who had all the odds stacked up in his favor.
It doesn't seem right to talk about "fairness" when all the hurdles are stacked in one direction.
For instance, if Ryan Espey is the best armwrestler in the house but has to fight 35 guys to get to the finals and is beat by someone 140... is it legitimate to call that 140 guy the overall champ of the tournament??
I guess it all comes down to the goals of the promoter.
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Post by Eric Roussin on Oct 24, 2013 15:31:03 GMT -5
If a prize is involved (e.g. cash) then I completely agree with John. However if the overall is just for fun, as many of them are, then I don't see a problem with the heaviest to lightest format. The biggest guy could see it as a fun challenge, and it would be more exciting for the spectators to watch because it would be harder to predict who the winner will be. As a general rule, rankings don't consider results from overalls anyway.
If the lightest guy wins in this format, I don't think anyone leaves the event thinking that he is really the best puller of the day.
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Post by Brian Kehler on Oct 24, 2013 15:37:41 GMT -5
Should the overall champ be the best armwrestler and not just a little guy who is rested and gets to fight a bigger worn out guy? It should be called something different if you're just going to try to burn out a bigger man so the little guy can win. I like the overall champ to be the best guy there that day and not someone who had all the odds stacked up in his favor. It doesn't seem right to talk about "fairness" when all the hurdles are stacked in one direction. For instance, if Ryan Espey is the best armwrestler in the house but has to fight 35 guys to get to the finals and is beat by someone 140... is it legitimate to call that 140 guy the overall champ of the tournament?? I guess it all comes down to the goals of the promoter. I've never competed in an overall so just speculating but if it's seeded by weight the relative expenditure should still be the same in the preliminary rounds, so when you got down to the top 4 there shouldn't be anyone who has an advantage fatigue-wise, just weight.. Lots of in-match variables but that can't be predicted. Edit: depending how many ppl from each class (just first, top 2 etc) |
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Post by Jeff Miller on Oct 24, 2013 16:22:51 GMT -5
Kelly Leitch would win this  |
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Post by Tyrrell Wojcichowsky on Oct 24, 2013 22:13:10 GMT -5
Most overalls run super against heavy, winner of that against light heavy, winner of that against 198 champ and so on Brian, not a draw seeded by weight. That is an interesting angle though. In fairness I enjoy watching the heavy burn up and lose and then watching the winner get flashed by 143'er. I would love to see a " Call Out" session after a tourney. Reffed and legit, before any one stiffens up and goes home. Put to the table any two parties that agree. You lose, you go home, no one will pull you, earned bye. Winner can talk smack after, and maybe win a slush fund worth of pride.
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Post by Jeff Miller on Oct 24, 2013 23:34:44 GMT -5
Yes that'd be fun!!
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