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Post by Mr. Espey on May 7, 2013 8:09:12 GMT -5
Miles Wolko will come out of retirement and take out John Milne fairly easily.
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Post by Eric Roussin on May 7, 2013 8:31:19 GMT -5
Allen vs Tyrrell -- I would give the slight edge to Allen (of course, I haven't pulled Tyrrell in a year and a half, so I don't know how much he may have improved since then). Tyrrell is a more versatile puller and can attack in different ways. But I think Allen's one killer move may be too hard to stop.
I only pull Allen once or twice a year. Whereas I used to beat him more often than not between 2005 and 2010, he's beat me at least the past five straight -- fast.
Allen vs Dan Kadlec -- I would pick a 242 Dan if he was training.
It's been too long since I've pulled Matt, so I don't have an opinion of how he would stack up against Tyrrell or Allen. I think his style is closer to Allen's, though.
John is a tough one to place. He's really good at forcing a hook against a toproller. He's done it successfully many times against me and Allen. But I'm not sure if he's pulled Allen in a tournament in the past year. I don't know if he'd be able to do it right now.
Under 242 (excluding Devon), I would still pick Sylvain Perron over anyone in Canada.
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Post by John Milne on May 7, 2013 8:42:41 GMT -5
Miles Wolko will come out of retirement and take out John Milne fairly easily. Skinny, you stay out of this. You're already in line to get smashed by me, don't make it worse. |
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Post by Jeff Miller on May 7, 2013 11:06:47 GMT -5
Lol
Allen sounds like a killer lately, so that's awesome! Not sure if Allen is pulling 220's, since I thought he was smaller. Actually, not sure if Matt Mask can pull 220's since he was ~230lbs at AB provincials. I've never pulled Matt nor Tyrrell, but I've seen the constant wake of destruction at every single tournament I have see them in - they are killers too, except they're bigger than Allen.
Reminds me of a Jon Jones vs. Anderson Silva debate...personally I think the bigger man clobbers the small one, because size matters and they're both the best in the world pound for pound..
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Post by Eric Roussin on May 7, 2013 11:28:19 GMT -5
I forgot to mention that my analysis was limited to the right hand. In left hand competition, Kade, Tyrrell, and Joe would be an interesting battle. But I would pick Sylvain over all of them.
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Post by John Milne on May 7, 2013 11:45:12 GMT -5
We may see Perron vs. Ford soon anyway.
There is no doubt Sylvain would smash all at 242 (barring Larratt) so that may give us a true indication of where Ford is at. It's hard to tell right now because he's wrecking everything in sight.
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Post by Jeff Miller on May 7, 2013 11:50:53 GMT -5
This is what I think would happen (but are unfair matches for Allen due to weight differences BTW):
Allen Ford vs Matt Mask: a fight-fire-with-fire match, both hard top roll, slip, then Matt wins via toproll in straps
Allen vs Tyrrell - MAYBE gets Tyrells fingers, slip, straps, Tyrrell crushes him.
Allen vs Del - they are the same size, so it's fair, now this would be cool: Allen's high, hard toproll might break Del's fingers for slip, straps, now it's anyone's match, maybe favor Del here. Del's hand strength is great though, so it might not even get to straps to have a battle. That's a great match-up.
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Post by Eric Roussin on May 7, 2013 12:17:00 GMT -5
I know styles make match ups, but Del lost to Anatoly at the 2010 Nationals. Allen has beaten Anatoly most, if not all of the times he's pulled him.
Brian Tamblyn had Allen's number up to two years ago. Allen finally beat him in the summer of 2011 and I don't believe he's lost to him since.
I can't speak for all others, but I know that Allen is definitely stronger than he was in 2010/11.
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Post by Will Sarty on May 7, 2013 12:24:39 GMT -5
I personally want to see Ford vs Dall'Antonia
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Post by Jeff Miller on May 7, 2013 12:45:38 GMT -5
Tamblyn is an excellent armwrestler, and probably CAN still beat Allen, even if it hasn't happened lately. Ralphie beat Allen at the Gould's RH. Personally I see Del and Allen as the two best in Canada right now. Allen's obviously a wrecking machine, but to think he's a level that doesn't make Del dangerous to him doesn't make sense (he's no Sylvain)...we're talking about tiny margins of separation here.
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