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Post by Jeff Miller on Aug 2, 2006 14:10:38 GMT -5
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to limit the chance of straining the shoulder during matches? I find particular discomfort when trying to catch a hit... I have a tinge of pain, and then my arm just loses strength as my opponent slams me.
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Post by John Milne on Aug 2, 2006 16:56:34 GMT -5
hit first???
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Post by Brian Kehler on Aug 2, 2006 18:27:44 GMT -5
the muscles of the rotator cuff mainly do external rotation... supraspinatus, infraspinatus, teres minor, subscapularis...
when you're catching a hit they're predominately stabilizing the joint, as medial rotators should be absorbing the force, and they're much stronger.
The best thing you can do is develop balance between the 2, and strengthen the posterior complex.
Do a lot of external roation exercises with bands or dumbells from different angles, and reverse flyes to strengthen rear delts.
That should give you a good start.
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Post by Jeff Miller on Aug 3, 2006 13:39:54 GMT -5
Maybe I'll try hitting first if I strengthen my arm enough to not hurt during a hit (I also need to fine tune my form).
Thanks for the feedback Kehler, I certainly don't do enough support work in the gym . I am not very well versed in physiology, but I thought the subscapularis was the major rotator muscle for armwreslting (probably the one I strain). Is the medial rotator a bigger muscle that rotates your arm in an armwrestling match?
P.S.
Is your full name Brian Kehler?
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Post by Brian Kehler on Aug 3, 2006 15:47:33 GMT -5
it is Brian... have we met before?
subscap is a primary medial roator, along with pec major, lats, teres major as secondary function.... i should have been more clear about that.
when you have all those bigger stronger muscles doing medial rotation... there's not much left doing lateral rotation to counteract it....
it's sort of the same kind of problems that develop in pitchers or quarterbacks, with the deceleration components being weak.
AND it's actually a proven fact that the small nutrient arteries to teres minor are absent in 16% of the population and infraspinatus in 33% of the population. So recovery in some people is a lot slower to these area's.
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Post by Mr. Espey on Aug 3, 2006 16:18:00 GMT -5
What is your middle name Brian?  |
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Post by Brian Kehler on Aug 3, 2006 16:19:19 GMT -5
i have 3 middle names...
crush kill destroy
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Post by Mr. Espey on Aug 3, 2006 16:22:35 GMT -5
Mine is just Roy.  |
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Post by Jeff Miller on Aug 3, 2006 17:18:28 GMT -5
Brian, your middle names are alot scarier than Ryan's.
Interesting, I wouldn't be surprised if I was in that percentage without the small healing arteries, as I seem to take long to recover - weight training, armwrestling, whatever.
I don't think we have ever met, as I just started armwrestling earlier this year (also I live in Edmonton, so train with Ron Highet, Mark Harrison, Brian Manson, and a bunch of other people you likely know). Thanks for the info.
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