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Post by austinslater on Jul 3, 2006 22:35:22 GMT -5
What are your guys favorite exercises for the hook? In the gym I seem to get the best results with partial rope pullups ala Kehler and wrist curls.
As far as practice goes other then pulling in a hook we do alot of wrist to wrist pulling and also letting the other guy hit and trying to toproll out of your hook.
What has seemed to help you guys the most? Thanks in advance
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Post by Mr. Espey on Jul 4, 2006 15:33:52 GMT -5
i think the mistake commonly made in practice is using the hook defensively. Like in your example "letting the other guy hit and trying to toproll out of your hook" that sounds like it would build solid holding strength in the hook but not in an offensive position after you actually initiate the hook. It is something I noticed in myself as I found myself having very strong holding power but had trouble initiating the move into a position on my side of the table or even at neutral. I am still working on it.
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Post by christianbinnie on Jul 5, 2006 9:33:52 GMT -5
I "believe" hooking comes with strength. The stronger you get, so will your hook. OF COURSE there are exceptions ( I just started training with someone who is EXTREMELY strong in the gym, BUT has to get, what I call ARMWRESTLING STRONG. Meaning getting those various muscles used for armwrestling STRONGER for the movements used in armwrestling)...
ALWAYS REMEMBER: to get good at something, YOU HAVE TO DO IT.....SO practice it in ALL directions and angles, like Ryan said....I also like to simulate the movement in the gym with STATIC holds in the various directions, again like Ryan has said.
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Post by markmacphail on Jul 5, 2006 9:37:15 GMT -5
I 've been doing a pulley routine (setting my table in between a set of cross cables) with a larger handle 2 1/2 inches. As far as results...... I 've been going up in weight so I think its helping.
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Post by Will Sarty on Jul 5, 2006 10:54:38 GMT -5
Ive been doing the same type routine in the gym with pully's. Also in practice using the hook in different positions including the losing position, but also have people try to hitting you in a top roll when you hook is important i find. It feels like my strength in a hook is going up but time will tell.
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Post by austinslater on Jul 5, 2006 13:24:56 GMT -5
What about setup for the hook? Do you guys prefer to grab real low and force a hook? I usually set up the same as I would in a toproll with a higher grip and then chop down real hard at the start. Seems to catch most off guard. Thanks again guys for the posting.
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Post by Curtis "Smash" Klashinsky on Jul 5, 2006 14:00:01 GMT -5
Anyway you guys could get a picture of what you are doing with these pulleys to train in the hook. If you could get a picture of somebody doing it then that would be Perfect.
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Post by Will Sarty on Jul 5, 2006 15:23:16 GMT -5
austinslater ...i hook the same way as you. I cant say wether or not it is a great offensive hook but seems to be doing alright
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Post by lukereimer on Jul 6, 2006 11:40:12 GMT -5
Austin, sounds like you're on the right track. Since hooking is more labour intensive than toprolling, it works better with surprise. Succeeding without surprise is usually more expensive! (Your next opponent will thank you!)
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Post by Mr. Espey on Jul 6, 2006 11:51:46 GMT -5
Glad to have you back posting Luke... we need you around.
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