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Post by The Grippler on Nov 12, 2011 19:36:58 GMT -5
Ah I see your point now in refferance too letting your opponent pin you. Yes that would be your taticle advantage for playing within the rules. however if you were in an advantages position when you opponent fouls I dare say you would try to pin him or milk his power before you gave up. If you do not accuire a foul during the match but your opponent does than it is up to him to winn that running foul match in order to get a restart. If he chooses to gain another foul during same pull he looses the match while you were holding on. ARMWARS currently goes with this system and it rarley end with the advantaged puller purposely loosing the match. I honestly think that that particular stratagey has not been used yet. But you might want to ask Dev, Joh Milne, or Ryan Epey as they have all pulled this way. The one rule that I'm not in love with but Iunderstand it is all slips goes to straps. At a WAF event Ryan would have beat Michael todd in one of there matches where Ryan was pressing and Michael just bailed. Yeah tough loss for Ryan but it is what it is. The fact remains it is what it is-is used allot more in HMM other forms of armwrestling IMO.
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Post by Mr. Espey on Nov 12, 2011 23:18:49 GMT -5
I like the running foul, but it takes some getting used to. There is some comfort in knowing that if your opponent has fouled that he now has to pin you just to get a restart. It is a strategy adjustment and I think that it would take some getting used to. I like the rule mainly because it takes away someone intentionally using the intentional elbow foul.
THAT BEING SAID...
All slips going to the straps would actually cause more people to bail without the risk of being called on it, which in a sense contradicts what is being accomplished by the running foul rule. In the case of my match I had thought that I actually pinned him... it was that close. Clearly he let go and got a restart in the strap. There are pullers (like Travis) who really like to bail out and go to the straps. He can freely do that here without consequence. I am not putting down Travis... he teaches how to slip out in his seminar.
The one thing I do like about all slips going to the strap is it takes away the human error factor. Losing position is often differently interpreted.
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Post by The Grippler on Nov 13, 2011 7:36:41 GMT -5
I agree 100 percent. I feel some rules need the guess work removed and some need to be jugdement calls. not everytime you are speeding and get pulled over you get a ticket, Not every slap in b-ball is a foul ect!
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Post by jerrymilne on Nov 13, 2011 12:30:32 GMT -5
Hey Grippler, how about an adjustable hand peg position? Have another position where the hand peg can be moved in closer to the individual.
If you re-watch your vid between John and Eric, you can see at times John can barely reach the peg.
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Post by The Grippler on Nov 13, 2011 17:12:56 GMT -5
interesting thought I have a few Ideas but nothing I would change immediately. But some ideas Prototypes would have to be designed and the tested for sure!
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Post by drdixonglory on Nov 14, 2011 2:45:50 GMT -5
hi Grippler,
in the running foul rule , an 'early start' is a foul or just a warning?
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Post by Jeff Miller on Nov 14, 2011 12:39:58 GMT -5
That seems like a can of worms for an executive committee, like the CAWF to discuss safety, sport fundamentals etc. I think the idea has merit; by that argument, why not get rid of the peg altogether? Or just not require the armwrestler to grab the peg? I imagine there are some break-arm safety concerns regarding this topic, which is why I suggested the committee thing.
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Post by steve kauppi on Nov 15, 2011 19:36:54 GMT -5
One rule that has always frustrated me is when I flash pin someone (doesn't happen very often) and I find out my opponent elbow fouled. The ref didn't have time to stop the match during so my opponent lost. I believe that should just remain a pin, my opponent couldn't win even by fouling so why does he get another chance?
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Post by Jeff Miller on Nov 16, 2011 18:29:30 GMT -5
Totally agree Steve - this is what I tried to say, but you said it better. BTW did you have to let everyone know it was you that was flash pinning me?  |
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Post by steve kauppi on Nov 17, 2011 22:18:50 GMT -5
Great minds think alike Jeff! I guess I should have read the whole thread  |
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